The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #110621   Message #2323476
Posted By: Les in Chorlton
23-Apr-08 - 07:07 AM
Thread Name: Bertsongs? (songs of A. L. 'Bert' Lloyd)
Subject: RE: Bertsongs?
Good points Captain, I guess we need to be careful about strengthening the tradition with bogus songs and lines which imply origins to songs that are without foundation.

I think hindsight as 20/20 vision is to be avoided but didn't Bert work in an academic environment that expected honest sources and references and much was made of this in his case?

It seems quite clear that Bert was doing things to songs with a purpose other than simply creating good songs but he wasn't being honest about it. Many of us were excited by him because he seemed to have identified an historical analysis of traditions that really valued working class culture.

I don't think I can explain in this format what Bert's purpose was and how he changed and created songs to support that purpose but in the year of his Centenary I think somebody should.

It took far too long for the Folk world to unravel what Sharp et al had been doing when they selectively collected songs. It looks we need to unravel what Bert was up to.