The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #110621   Message #2323925
Posted By: Jim Carroll
24-Apr-08 - 02:47 AM
Thread Name: Bertsongs? (songs of A. L. 'Bert' Lloyd)
Subject: RE: Bertsongs?
Les,
I assume that you are asking about the collecting done by MacColl and Littlewood - I'll go and get me book....... (exits left).
Here we go...
"1948 - The Song Collector. The record of a folk song-collecting trip in Teesdale, Yorkshire. Produced by Olive Shapley"
I have no idea what the programme included and how faithful Ewan's later renderings of the songs collected were (nor did Harry - he told me he'd never heard the programme, which was presumably junked by the Beeb).
When I asked him about the trip he said they'd recorded Four Loom Weaver, To The Begging, Drinking, Fourpence a Day, Scarborough Fair and an obscene version of Seven Nights Drunk (T'Ould Chap Cam' O'er The Bank), all of which MacColl sang himself at one time or another. Apart from Beckett Whitehead, he mentioned as an informant, retired lead miner Mark Anderson, from whom they'd got 'Fair' and 'Fourpence'.
As I say, I have no idea to what extent he re-worked the songs; but knowing his general approach to his traditional material, possibly quite extensively.
Unlike Bert, I never heard Ewan make claims of 'authenticity' for his own sung versions, though he quite often couldn't remember what he'd done to them.
Jim Carroll