"Our take home pay £17000 for a family of four.

Nobody to cry too or any big union to get us out on strike. Just tighten the spending purse and get on with life."

Ditto me mate, only ours is less than £15,000, and I still say that the fact that others are worse off is no good reason to drag anyone else down. My concept of civilisation was about getting all of us out of poverty, not bringing everyone else down into it.

I don't know about you, but MY contribution to society is considerably less than that of teachers, nurses, or policemen, so I concentrate on maximising my position, and don't begrudge others getting the just reward for their contribution.

Don T.