Sal, I could never agree with you on that. My grandmother was a suffragette, went to Holloway Prison and was force fed for her part in getting the vote for women and working class men. It is important to vote. If you don't you have no right to criticise whatever government gets in or what they do. Anyway, I don't want this turning into a thread creep so I'll just say that under the conservative government all negotiating rights werew withdrawn from the unions and there was no consultation just imposition. At least now we are negotiating. And now I'll return to my union work.....