Sinsull - I did take off from having read your comment; but did not have you particularly in mind when I started the thread. I didn't mean to make you an example especially as I hadn't seen your work nor am I qualified to judge it. Please forgive me if it seems so. Nor did I have any intention of denigrating your character, accomplishments etc. (That's just for the record - in case someone is reading this "wrong")

However I HAVE seen work, better in many instances and certainly no worse then items commercially available whose makers, apparently sincerely, come up with lines like "Oh that's not saleable", "Nobody would pay for that" etc. These are people whom I sincerely believe are NOT being falsely modest (or at least consciously). The corellary is that it seems in some places ~ "Handmade" ~ means "cut-rate" or "cheap". Or people seem to expect it too.

One example...Christmas Greens. For years I made Christmas Wreaths and various decorations, along with various friends, as a fund-raiser. These were handmade on handwoven backings,of fresh evergreens, often five or six varieties of greens in a wreath, decorated and with a hand-tied bow. Equivilant wreaths at the florist were selling for $75 to $100 dollars.(In fact we did have florists purchase and resell several at a considerable markup.)Single green, machine made undecorated wreaths were going for about $15 in the same size. We had a VERY hard time getting $20 for our wreaths. The kicker was one of the florist's purchases, which sold the next day to the same woman who refused to pay $20 for it at the price of $75!!!!! I didn't know whether to gloat or scream with frustration!