And where exactly Don have I ever put forward the arguement that:

"I fail to see that if one side of a conflict uses torture and brutality, that is a moral justification for the other side to do the same." - Don Firth's Post of 27 Apr 08 - 01:50 p.m.

I do not believe that I have have. Others have ventured the option that if "we" use "torture", the otherside is then more likely to use it against any of our troops captured. I believe that that is a complete red-herring.

Generally "we" do not use "torture", the cases reported so far have represented a tiny number of instances compared to the number of prisoners handled in the case of US Forces (Abu Ghraib). In the instances of accusations against UK Forces, Piers Morgan of the "Daily Mirror" actually went ahead and published articles about UK "torture" of Iraqi prisoners including beautiful photographs all of which were phoney, specially staged and all taken in the UK. Immediately they were published the discrepancies and errors were glaring. He should have had them verified of course but what the hell he's in the business of selling news papers - fuck the lives of the soldiers he was deliberately putting at risk by publishing them in an attempt to inflame the situation in order to sell even more copy.

By the bye, I was rather hoping that Guest TIA would acknowledge the difference and refrain from putting words into my mouth and then try to take me to task for them.