The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #110621 Message #2328361
Posted By: GUEST,Tom Bliss
29-Apr-08 - 03:48 AM
Thread Name: Bertsongs? (songs of A. L. 'Bert' Lloyd)
Subject: RE: Bertsongs?
Tom was one of the first people featured on Channel 4 when it started - a fascinating series, explaining how he made his 'sextons' - as he called them.
An excellent analogy in some ways, as you say, but missing the mark in others (as you say).
I wouldn't personally pillory Lloyd, and I agree that he'd probably do things differently today. As Eliza Cathy has pointed out elsewhere, there was a different philosophy around at that time, and people who 'failed to attribute' their own authorship felt they were doing a good thing - adding to the pool of good 'free-to-use' material, and helping to develop and encourage the tradition.
But it was, we now realise, misguided. And our task is to make sure that everyone understands - so that a new culture of correct attribution can start to flourish.
Pete quite rightly points out that we don't have time when singing live to present a scholarly explanation to every song (well I almost do sometimes and seem to get away with it!) but I do think there should be time for a quick credit - just a name would often suffice.
The more important habit is to try to provide references on CD sleeves and websites.