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Thread #110745   Message #2330283
Posted By: Little Hawk
30-Apr-08 - 09:21 PM
Thread Name: BS: Media Jump Ship From Obama To Clinton
Subject: RE: BS: Media Jump Ship From Obama To Clinton
Yes, that's right.

You say, "I don't ever expect "the oppressed" to behave any differently than anyone else."

Ha! Neither do I...now. But when I was young, naive, and full of the most idealistic dreams I DID expect the oppressed to behave differently. I absolutely expected it. I think we all did back then. We were dreamers in the days of youth.

Maybe you were never that naive, but I sure was.

"they don't seem any more less venal than any group of white people I've ever been around" No, probably not. But are they carrying a bigger chip on their shoulder? If so, that in itself can lead to problems.

The people I was around in the AIM were carrying a much bigger chip on the shoulder than the average middle class White person I know...and it did lead to problems, mostly of the self-inflicted sort within the peer group itself, as I said.

"The dynamic you describe about native people you knew also sounds like life in the suburbs"

Yeah, it does, doesn't it? ;-) I've always detested life in the suburbs. I prefer living in either the city or the country...in either case there's some chance of escaping the kind of competitive quasi-incestuous mindgames that go on in a suburban neighborhood.

"Everybody acts like a jerk at some point or another, is cruel, greedy, ugly. I've seen it all, and it is me and you and (the) egg man."

Dead right. Nothing I can add to that.

You see, on the one hand, I expected too much. On the other hand, many people could have behaved a lot better than they chose to...and would have been far happier had they done so.