"After the way the English education system was built up from the mid 19th Century, initially with the assistance of philanthopic capitalists"

Thank you thank you, doffs cap, but we don't want crumbs of education we want the bakery - it is our right.

Some working class kids went to Grammar Schools but most of us didn't.

In the 1950s around 2/3 of the population could be described as working class. Around 1/3 of those got to the Grammar Schools whilst 2/3 of the middle and upper classes got here.

"New Labour Socialists" you must be desperate for something to say.

"whilst plunging their own snouts into the trough"

I seem to remember all those City toffs with their snouts in the Stockmarket trough and piles of cocaine whilst unemployment went through the roof and generations of working class children left school with no chance of work.

I will give you this Sapper, most of us socialists can't agree on what it is or how to do it but if you think you can control gloab capitalism you are dafter than we are.

Cheers