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Thread #109960   Message #2333311
Posted By: katlaughing
05-May-08 - 11:45 AM
Thread Name: BS: Gardeners & Soil and Climate Science
Subject: RE: BS: Gardeners & Soil and Climate Science
Can't wait to see those, Bobert!

I poured some 5% apple cider vinegar on some weeds near our back door, yesterday. I just looked at them and see no difference. I didn't spray, just poured near their roots, so I don't know if it is because of that or that 5% isn't strong enough, but it didn't work. Maggie, have you noticed it working where you sprayed?

Also, this is from the Naturist newsletter I get from the guy in Mexico. Though you all might find it interesting:

EARTHWORMS & CUBANS
Cuba's development has had to progress along a path
different from what it would have been if not for the
US embargo that's been in effect for decades. The
embargo restricted the machinery, spare parts,
technology and the like that other countries have had
access to. One consequence of this is that today
Cubans possess knowledge and experience with
alternative technologies much needed in poorer parts
of the developing world. Cuba now is the leading
source of information and expertise with regard to
tropical organic farming.

A while back a Cuban technician passed through this
area teaching how to obtain high-quality fertilizer
from earthworm farms. Now that a bag of urea costs
about US $40 here and people simply no longer can
afford it, they're desperate for cheap fertilizers.
Using earthworm poop has captured people's
imaginations. I'm told that Chiapas State Government
is supporting the development of earthworm farms here.
Already one is in operation down the road in Pujiltik,
and a committee has been formed in 28 de Junio to
start one here.

I've seen that worm poop is great stuff, high in
nitrogen, but I wonder if enough can be generated for
the big fields here. When I suggest that farmers
return to mingling corn, beans, squash and amaranth
greens the way their ancestors did, with nitrogen-
fixing bacteria in nodules on bean roots providing the
nitrogen, and traditional rotation providing food
throughout the year, basically I get blank looks.

I know why: The traditional approach doesn't yield
much cash for the money-based economy people have
decided they want to participate in.