There are policy issues and there are personal issues... Bush has had some very screwed up policies and for the most part that is what Amos, as well as myself and others, have pointed out...

But what we have gotten back is not defenses of these policies buit twisted personal attacks when we haven't bought into the latest spin to sanitize Bush's failures...

This is the crux of the problems we have here between individuals... We start out talkin' policy, llogical twisted spin is thrwon back at us. we don't buy it and then the Bush folks, rather than accept the possibility that perhaps Bush has made a mistake, make it personal with screamuing and accusations....

That's the way all these end up because the Bush folks are not anle to admit even one single mistake their fearless leader has made...

You can't argue with "true believers"...

B~