Thanks a lot Brian I think what you have done is given us a sense of proportion about Bert's interventions.

I suppose that since he was so influential it is so much more important that we get nearer the truth.

I once met a man in a Liverpool Club, the 43 Club on Catherine Street as it happens, who claimed that Stan Hugill had written most of the songs in "Shanties from the Seven Seas", clearly nonsense but I do believe, and will go and sort out my refernces, that a collector made up most of the verses to Hullabaloo belay!