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Thread #111261   Message #2341281
Posted By: Little Hawk
15-May-08 - 11:41 AM
Thread Name: BS: NARAL Endorsement of Obama
Subject: RE: BS: NARAL Endorsement of Obama
I think what bugs Fantasma is simply the fervently loyalist Obama cheerleading section here. If you were almost all cheerleading that way for Hillary instead of Obama, that would bug her too. That's my guess anyway.

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Now, as for the "hatred for women" thing in BB's linked article...well, that's a factor in some cases certainly, but it's hardly a deciding factor.

Speaking only for myself, I actually like women better on the whole as a gender than men (despite being male), and I'm not talking about any kind of sexual attraction when I say that. The reason I like women better as a gender is that I find they are more inclined to be: responsible, honest, law-abiding, non-violent, polite, cooperative with others, and generally far more reasonable....on average...than the male gender. They mature faster, and they remain more mature...on average. They cause far less trouble. They commit far less crime. They kill far fewer people. They are the glue that holds any society together and keeps it stable and functioning, and they always have been.

I would prefer to see women in governmental positions than men...on average...because of their obvious strengths and good character traits which I have alluded to above. I have enthusiastically voted for women on many occasions in Canadian elections. I do not have the slightest hesitation in contemplating a female as leader of my country...or of any country.

But that doesn't mean any female! And it doesn't discount any male. One's gender alone does not qualify one for leadership.

I am more favorably impressed by Obama on the whole than I am by Hillary Clinton. (And I am more favorably impressed by Dennis Kucinich and his wife than I am by either Obama or Clinton, by the way!) I don't trust Hillary Clinton or Bill Clinton one bit, and I don't trust the Clinton political machine. The problem for me is not Hillary's gender, but other matters altogether totally aside from her gender. In fact, her gender is somewhat of a plus, as far as it goes, but it's not the deciding factor.

Someone who is obsessed with rooting out "hatred to women" under every leaf and stone probably won't even believe my sincerity when I say the above things. Their faith in their own sense of martyrdom would perhaps not allow them to believe it, since I am a male.

Well, tough. I cannot help a mind that is incapable of helping itself.

(the above remarks are not directed at Fantasma, they were inspired by reading BB's article)

To be called sexist for not supporting Hillary Clinton is like being called racist for not supporting Obama or anti-semitic for not supporting Zionism. It's a smear, and depending on the individual who is being smeared, it may very well be a smear with utterly no basis in fact whatsoever.