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Thread #111199   Message #2341422
Posted By: CarolC
15-May-08 - 01:57 PM
Thread Name: BS: Obama on Zionism, Jews
Subject: RE: BS: Obama on Zionism, Jews
I'd be willing to bet that it wasn't actions on the part of the Palestinians that caused the Jews to leave the areas that are now the West Bank, Gaza, and East Jerusalem in 1948 and 1949. The people whose interests were served by ethnic cleansing were the Israeli leadership.

In 1923, 76% of Mandate Palestine was given to the Arabs to be an Arab homeland, where Jews were forbidden to live.

This is not true. Jews were never forbidden to live there. I've already shown you the documentation in support of this in another thread.

The Arab Moslums who stayed in Israel got Israeli citizenship: The ones who left did not. The Jews driven out by Arab nations were never compensated: Why should the Arabs who left what became Israel have any more rights than the Arabs gave Jews???

I realize that you originally were discussing compensation, but that wasn't the point that I came in to this part of the discussion to address. I am not advocating that anyone receive any compensation. I was just interested in correcting the falsifications of history that you were posting.

Oh, that's right- Jews are not really human- they do not deserve to have a homeland like the 1921 treaty declared...

The 1921 treaty declared that they should find a homeland within the are covered by the treaty, but that treaty, as well as clarifications of the treaty by Churchill and others also specified that "homeland within Palestine" only meant that Palestine would be their home, and it would be considered their place of origin. They were not permitted by the treaty to turn the area into a "Jewish State". In fact, they were expressly instructed to not do that.

Wrong. Your claim is false.

No, it's true. I got my information from the ambassador to the US from Jordan. The numbers are small, but they're there. They may not be citizens, but they nevertheless live in Jordan, and your question was not "how many Jordanian citizens are Jewish", but rather "
How many Jews are there in Jordan". The Jordanians have always been on very good terms with the Israeli leadership.