I haven't seen the Casbolt material, Jeanie. I'll have a look at that when I get a chance.

Shimrod, I haven't been doing much reading of that sort in some time. I think the most interesting thing you might check out is the "Disclosure Project". Look up their website on Google and do some reading there. I don't expect it to convince you of anything, but it will provide many useful references and possibilities.

I have met too many personal witnesses of what were probably alien vehicles...people I felt I could trust...plus having my own experiences along that line. Accordingly, I have little reason to doubt their existence, and the fact that there are some obvious charlatans in the field simply annoys me. They are muddying the waters, and that doesn't help. Some of them may even be deliberate plants (agents) on behalf of the people who would like to discredit the entire subject. Disinformation can be very useful when discrediting or covering up anything.

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Heric, I can navigate very efficiently from here across Canada in my car. That does not mean that I am immune to accidents and mishaps along the way. White Star could navigate very efficiently across the Atlantic in the age of the great liners. Nonetheless, the Titanic hit an iceberg in 1912 and sank. Nuclear subs have been lost at sea in peacetime, due to mishaps. It's rare, but it happens. Why would visiting aliens be immune to suffering accidents and mishaps in their travels? Does being more technologically advanced than we are make you infallible or bulletproof? Does it make your machines infallible or perfect. ;-) I doubt it.

How do you know they have not also lost ships and crew in deep space? I'm sure they have, if they're out there at all. Travel always involves some degree of risk. That doesn't stop us from traveling, does it?

And it wouldn't stop them either.