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Thread #110914   Message #2343470
Posted By: Teribus
18-May-08 - 07:08 AM
Thread Name: BS: UK local elections: here comes poverty
Subject: RE: BS: UK local elections: here comes poverty
Akenaton, have a really good read of this:

"Capitalism supplies employment, employment supplies income, income gives the power to purchase what we need or what we WANT. Capitalism by employing us produces that which we may need or want to purchase.

What we do with that purchasing power is OUR responsibility, and we can be as greedy, or as frugal as WE choose.

Nobody forces us to overconsume, or to waste resources. The supply is put in front of us, and WE make our own decisions.

There are "isms" which dictate what we may or may not, and in some cases what we must or must not, do. Capitalism is one of the very few that does not, so if we want to blame somebody for our excesses, I'm afraid we must look closer to home for the culprit,.....Perhaps a mirror?" - Don(Wyziwyg)T

Don has got it summed up there perfectly.

By the bye you don't obtain a "society" off-the-shelf - people make whatever society they CHOSE to live in - Oh Dear there is that thing called personal choice cropping up again.

As for your: "Today we have a whole generation of lost children afloat in a word with no place for them, an ever increasing army of old people who have ceased to be of any use to the system and a hindrance to their families....if families still exist!

A workforce holding down multiple jobs in an effort to pay credit charges and morgage payments to the later day outlaws of the banking industry."

We have a whole generation of lost children afloat in a word with no place for them Akenaton because the so-called "Baby Boomer" generation turned out to be by and large absolutely useless parents, nothing to do with with what was on offer in the shops. The loss of "family" again down to personal choice, the halcyon days you hark back to were governed by belief in education, respect for education, people knew and acknowledged what their responsibilities were, they did not shirk duty, they had respect for themselves and each other, they possessed that vital tool for living called self-discipline. They did not endlessly hammer on about what their rights were, they did not always adopt the line of least resistance in order to take the easy way out.

The circumstance that drives people to hold down multiple low pay minimum wage jobs was brought about by a total disregard and disrespect for education and personal expectation far outstripping the personal ability to achieve. Everything that can be has been dumbed down so that everybody is an "achiever" even if the achievement is worthless. What the country needs are mathematicians, scientists, doctors, nurses and engineers, not thousands of basket case degrees in social studies.

Nothing whatsoever to do with "Capitalism" Akenaton, your, "Well, i don't think we should be too hard on ourselves" sums up perfectly what is wrong - Somebody else's fault again - grow up, high time a hell of a lot of people did that in the UK.