There needs to be a homeland for Palestinians. There also is a homeland for Jews. The various Arab neighbours need to fuck off because they have done nothing to help. And in fact, the US needs to fuck off, too. HOWEVER, unless the only security Israel can have is the possession of nuclear weapons and the will to use them, then there is NO percentage in Israel agreeing to anything in the Middle East. As long as people continue to say crap like 'Israel started the 1967 war', there will be no agreement. Not here, not there.

Arab and Muslim governments--spokesmen for those governments or Hezbollah-type groups--have said things like 'anhilation of Israel', 'wipe it from the map', and other rhetoric which boils down to killing 5,000,000 Israelis. To say that that is not what they meant is simply bullshit.

If the only way people here can see a resolution to the problem as being Israel doing all the given, the problem will not get resolved.

I have yet to see the same vehement hatred that is directed at Israel being directed at Hezbollah or Hamas. When it is, it is couched in terms such that "well, if the Israelis hadn't done such-and-such, then these groups wouldn't have been necessary", and that is just justification for psychopaths to continue killing civilians, and when Israeli civilians get killed by rockets or suicide bombers, guess what? They respond. And guess what else? As long as this sort of rhetorical crap is perpetuated, there will be NO peace in the Middle East because there is not one good reason for Israel to pursue peace. To the Palestinians it is about a homeland. To the Israelis, it is about survival. Jews ahve been left to the mercy of countries before: Poland, Ukraine, France, etc. They were slaughtered. Denmark refused to play the game. Danish Jews were saved.

So while you folks get all teary-eyed about displaced people, save some of those tears for the other displaced people. And until such time as you demonstrate in your posts that what you seek is a solution for humans, not just Palestinian humans, I will contine to read your posts with disdain, and there will be no common ground here, either.

I respect that you have views. Respect that they are not the only views.