Well this has made for a fascinating read. I suppose that my original take on the prayer was eventually brought out by Peter when he stated that this type of thing can be found in all religions, which indeed it can. Religion demands faith. In one form or another, faith is a basic tenet of all religious beliefs and while I like the thoughts, ethics, and morals found in many religions worldwide, I cannot buy into faith. I have none, and it ceased to trouble me many years ago. It is impossible for me to accept belief in that which defies proof.

But its quite true too that some things are as yet unproven and theoretical in nature. Some things we just "have to accept." I guess THAT bothers me a lot; enough not to voluntarily take on anything that adds to the load and is not needed to travel on in this life. Someone once asked me if I was bothered by not "knowing." Like Gordon Liddy and the candle, the trick is not minding.

Spaw