The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #95096   Message #2346490
Posted By: Bill D
21-May-08 - 07:24 PM
Thread Name: BS: UFOs in the news
Subject: RE: BS: UFOs in the news
As usual, he 'states' that vested interests in the status quo are conspiring to hide evidence of alien technologies...presumably until THEY control it and can exploit it for profit.

This is, of course, a plausible theory, as greedy companies are widely known for manipulating information to enhanve their own situation. The question, of course, is whether there is IN FACT information on E.T. technology to BE manipulated.











........so 40 minutes later. After the babble of Hellyer and a couple others, we get to Dr. Greer, who comes as close as anyone to making a coherent case for even considering these claims. **IF** he has real evidence for what he asserts, it does show a problem with access to whatever truth there may be. I am not sure how I would go about evaluating Dr. Greer's claims. ...and I see there are 20-20 MORE hours of videos one can watch. I can see how total immersion in these things could begin to compel the mind to make links....but it still remains that part of the compelling nature is the insertion of pretty obvious 'truths' and hard-to-dispute probabilities in between highly speculative guesses in such a way as to appear the everything supports everything else. (It would take me...literally...a few hours to give all the examples and draw all the connections necessary to be as clear as *I* would like to be.)


In the pages I read, after seemingly reasonable ramblings, I found this:

"UFOlogy has not made great strides in finding conclusive, unambiguous evidence for the ETH (Extra-terrestrial hypothesis) or any other theory on the origin for unexplained UFOs. Despite this failure, many UFOlogists have evaluated the evidence and concluded for themselves that the ETH is the most likely explanation for the phenomena. Given the potentially serious implications of this hypothesis, it makes sense to seriously investigate the potential implications of this hypothesis and to seek answers to the following questions:

Who are the visitors?
What do they want from us?
How are our governments reacting to this presence?
Are government agencies hiding information about UFOs from the public?
"


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Wow....such a lot of embedded assumptions. Those 'questions' are thinly disguised assertions!

   I see all those videos, and the urge to view all of them...and digest & evaluate them is only tempered by my NEED to concern myself with my upcoming festival & craft show.


Dr. Greer, in his story about briefing President Clinton and other top US officials, is most provocative...but I hear only one side of the story, and as a skeptic, I wonder if anyone else there remembers the exchange & relevance differently....that WAS quite awhile ago!

I dunno,LH....as usual, there is stuff that warrants interest & concern, but testimony from 400 nice, honest folks about stuff they are sure they saw still does not tell ME what they saw, and that is IS genuine ET stuff, as Greer & Hellyer & others are flatly asserting!

There are SO many *IFs* ...if there is alien technology about, and if we could talk to 'them', and if they'd give us some, and if we could use it sanely, then 'maybe' we could get beyond some of the problems we have....IF we are really able to correctly identify our relevant problems! If *I* were an alien, watching this strange civilization, I'm not sure I'd trust us with stuff like 'the power to move among the stars'....

So...my cold & cough (and my wife) demand I take a break...

I try to understand....I really do. But I have seen so much garbage passed off as 'truth' and defended by inane conspiracy theories, that I remain VERY careful what I buy into. Maybe my place in all this is to test YOU and others about what really does pass for fact, evidence and good logic.


*cough, cough*.....bye