That IS over the top for a reaction, Richard. Would you prefer that girls go out with bikini strips on and TRUST every man not to react in some fashion. Kind of hard to control hormones at times, ya know, esp. when society is telling you you'll get a woman/girl if you wear just the right aftershave, etc. You and mg seem to be at the extreme ends of the issue. Everyone needs to take some responsibility. My daughter was sending the wrong message, an inviting message, without realising it. It was my responsibility to teach her otherwise. The young men may have been taught to be careful, too, but I had no way of knowing that.