I had to read, "it was 4 years ago that I first turned up at a folk club" at least a dozen times with, I must admit, a look of complete amazement on my face. Four years you say, and YOU DARE to come in here and try to tell others what is and what is not, in folk music. I have but one thing to say to you, Walkaboutsverse, you may leave the room at anytime you wish, not only are your various claims unsubstantiatable, your pretentiousness knows absoutely no bounds. You'd like to think that you're more than instant soup and TV? The term sound bytes are us comes to mind.