I didn't say you weren't alowed in as musicians. I didn't mean to say that anyway. Wot I meant was there are a lot of musicians around. And take the stuff about Ron Kavana above.

I'm willing to bet if Ron himself doesn't hear about it. One of his friends will, and it will hurt their feelings.

The trouble with Irish centers is as a venue - there are lots of different types and its hard to get it right. Sometimes they want old fashioned waltzes, sometimes they want rebel songs, sometimes they don't want ANY rebel songs, sometimes there are no Irish people in these places and they don't know any Irish songs, sometimes they're full of Marty Robbins fans....

For chrissake Ron's Irish, he has a nice voice, he plays in tune, he knows the words of the songs he sings, just try and behave yourself!