The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #95096   Message #2351459
Posted By: Amos
28-May-08 - 06:27 PM
Thread Name: BS: UFOs in the news
Subject: RE: BS: UFOs in the news
There are a few important differences in the propositions you are comparing, Little Hawk. Bill is not suggesting you be punished for heretical notions. He is simply pointing out that homo sap does not have a workable model of FTL phenomena except at the quantum level.

There's plenty of theory to support "FTL" influence. For example, one theory has it that in the intricate nanoseconds just after the big bang, massively complex entanglement of subatomic particle such as photons occurred, and that in the expansion of the universe immediately following, entangled pairs of particle were distributed widely all around the expanding sphere of Space. The nature of entanglement seems to be that once a pair is entangled they never become un-entangled--so the whole universe is littered with exchanges of information faster than light speed by its nature.

Then there's the ten-dimensional string space, which seems to define connections of an instantaneous nature across dimensions unmeasurable to man, across which the speed "C" might be meaningless. After all, we have not really defined space itself very well yet, so it may be that the whole paradigm which defines light and its speed is a quaint superstition compared to what we will someday know about space and the "fabric" of what we now call "space-time".

It also seems likely that such an evolution in our paradigms is inevitable because the existing paradigm seems to run into such imponderables, like the quotient of energy of vacuum, the relationship between space and mass, and other difficult boundary topics.
So there's plenty of philosophical room for different views about the physical universe. ANd then doesn't even begin to add in the role of the universe of thought in all this.

But Bill, obstreperous codger that he is, is making a perfectly correct point about the standards of fact-based knowledge. All the hypotheticals in the world will not abide in the face of a couple of good, replicable experiments and a model that explains them, and predicts concrete results which are then observed to occur.

We should never stop striving for a better model and a new view of how things work.

But letting hyptheses run away with our minds is equally counter-productive.

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