Well, Beer, before I get to the topic at hand I just want to let you know that the room you refered to as the 'John', we call the 'Adrien' in my house... or the 'Frank' or 'Sidney' or the "whoever calls that place the 'John'." !>)

I help Ms Sunset Coast with the shopping betimes. I was selecting Apple Juice, and noticed the store brand said, "Concentrate from China". Well enough is enough, dammit! Washington produces enough apples to stuff millions of roasted pigs, to say nothing of that good juice and cider. New York and eastern Canada are huge apple producers too. Well I may have to buy shoes made in China, or pants and shirts, but I'm not buying foodstuffs from China, especially not dog food.

BTW, I wrote a card of complaint about the apple juice to store corporate management, so if you're prejudiced, I must be a downright Sinophobe.