The recorder itself may not be an English instrument, the earliest recorder, as we know it, is 14th century one, found in a castle moat in Dordrecht, the Netherlands in 1940, It is largely intact, though not playable. A second more or less intact 14th century recorder was found in a latrine in northern Germany (in Göttingen): other 14th-century examples survive from Esslingen (Germany) and Tartu (Estonia). There is a fragment of a possible 14th-15th-century bone recorder in Rhodes (Greece); and there is an intact 15th-century example from Elblag (Poland). Having said that, no one really knows where the recorder originated, so.