By way of a postscript, I do think there's such a thing as "English culture", but my definition of English culture includes Irish sessions, gospel choirs and C&W clubs: it's based on what English people actually do, in other words. And I do care deeply about English traditional songs and tunes, and I'd be very sorry if they ceased to be a part of English culture.

But nobody here is perpetuating their tradition or defending the English heritage; we're doing something we find enjoyable, fulfilling and valuable, because we find it enjoyable, fulfilling and valuable. That's my biggest problem with WAV's pathetic anathemata, in fact - it's all so joyless. Stop trying to stamp out other people's fun, WAV - have some fun of your own.