I am no apologist for the Catholic Church, Con, old sport, and Dublin is not my most favourite city.

But I don't go around from thread to thread like a spoilt child, picking through peoples' words to satisfy some strange obsession you have with the plight of things Orange.

I actually had you pegged as an intelligent bloke, and a lot of what you have said in previous threads not only displayed that intelligence, but a modicum of compassion too.

You will find that people from the nationalist tradition don't go around this forum, like you have of late, trolling for attention and insulting people who have never said a cross word against you.

Your long winded argument is flawed. The orange tradition is alive and well. I don't like the songs; They 'kicked the Pope' outside of our house every year, so I don't sing them. That's a personal choice, and bears no relation to the fact that they exist; and like it or not, they are there. But although I can acknowledge that hot pepper salami's exist, and, being a humanist, I recognise their right to be on the deli counter along with all the other little salamis, I am a man of more refined tastes. Am I be criticised for it?

B.