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Thread #111625   Message #2357056
Posted By: Phil Edwards
04-Jun-08 - 08:38 AM
Thread Name: English Folk Degree?
Subject: RE: English Folk Degree?
"WAV wants to limit immigration so as to preserve English culture. In what sense is that not racist?" Phil...that is the questioning of immigration - NOT racism

My point is that you're questioning immigration on the basis of race. You don't want to keep people out because you're afraid they'll put your local plumber out of a job or put a strain on class size in your local school: you want to keep them out because you're afraid they'll damage English culture. Which means that you only want to keep certain people out - and you define the people you want to keep out on the basis of their not being ancestrally and culturally English. You believe in mono-ethnic, mono-cultural nations - you've actually said so.

Look, if I said I deeply respected gay people but I'd rather not have anything to do with them in my daily life, most people would think I was prejudiced against gays. If I said I deeply respected Jews but I'd much rather they all left this country and emigrated to Israel, most people would suspect me of anti-semitism. And when you say you're not racist but you think different races and cultures shouldn't mix, I think most people here have a similar reaction.

Still no answer to the 'time machine' question: how can you say you want to stop non-English people coming here, then say you've got nothing against the non-English people who are here already?