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Thread #101746   Message #2357832
Posted By: GUEST,Observer
04-Jun-08 - 10:56 PM
Thread Name: BS: Bobby Sands hunger strike film
Subject: RE: BS: Bobby Sands hunger strike film
Post wasted on the "keypad warrior" Teribus, WLD. The guy was a failure in every aspect of his pitiful life, hence his postings of military achievements on the edge of a British regiment he failed to acquire rank in.

It would be unlikely any organisation would call upon him to commence a Hunger Strike, if you saw his physical condition, it would take around six years for him to wither. Highly unlikely they could wait that long for aims and objectives !

He has been losing argument after argument throughout all the threads here and it's no surprise he waddled in here to attempt to talk down Irish & Irish American members. He belonged to a failed force that actually admitted in the Operation Banner report that they would never have beaten the Provisional IRA. Professional soldiers tend to be more intelligent.

Now to correct and answer his remarks.

"Bobby Sands hunger (stike) ? Film "Hunger" - All this prat managed to achieve was possibly "weight watcher or of the year 1985" absolutely nothing else.

- REPLY. R.G. Sands stood on principle, qualities Teribus could never understand. To resort to playground remarks gives the character of the man.

Now let's face it exactly what did he starve himself to death for?

United Ireland - Not achieved. - - REPLY, Political Status was his aspiration.

REPLY. He undertook a hunger strike as a soldier to demand the right for "Political Status" for his comrades, something which the British government gave him during his time in cages 9 and 11. In 1976 they removed it. Political Status is a right for those incarcerated for politically motivated actions.

A Police Force that was predominantly Catholic or Republican - Not achieved.

-REPLY No that was never an objective Teribus,
disbandment of the B Specials (1920-1970)
disbandment of the Ulster Defence Regiment (1970-1992)
disbandment of the Royal Ulster Constabulary (1922- 2001)
disbandment of the home service Battalions of the Royal Irish Regiment.

ALL ACHIEVED.

A commitment from the Government of the UK that Ireland will be a single united country - Not achieved -

REPLY, No commitment was ever requested by the Provisionals. Demanded yes.

Can any of you tell me what this man achieved apart from writing songs with lyrics that were entirely spurious, historically incorrect and intended to inflame a bad situation with the sole intent of making it worse.

- REPLY, well he gets your blood to boil, and that's enough in it's own right. He brought to the eyes of the world the determination of the Irish people and the injustice against those incarcerated within the blocks.

Now all that is bad enough but these were the people he was supposed to have been protecting.

- REPLY, Senseless remark, not requiring an answer.

Protecting, Jesus "H" come dancing Christ Bobby Sands and his (colleqagues) killed 3500+ Irishmen, Women and Children and injured and maimed about 30,000 more - For What???

- REPLY, I would reply if I knew what colleqagues were ? is it a collection of pictures cut from magazines ?

Absolutely Nothing - Hey boys that is what this prat died for absolutely nothing. And that is how history will record his so called sacrifice - It was made for nothing.

- REPLY, well Teribus, there are 14 streets in the world named after him, his funeral was attended by over 100,000 people in Ireland. His sacrifice has been an inspiration to a generation. The British government did make amendments to incarceration after the strike.

Oh Yes "I wish I was back Home In Fuckin' Derry" - Hey all you so called Folkies take a bloody good look at those lyrics - lets hear you give them some sort of (credance) based on history taking into account that they sing of something that was supposed to have happened in 1803 but was written about in the 1970's - Bobby Sands contribution should have been based upon historical accuracy, particularly as it should have based upon 20 X 20 hindsight - But there again, as with all things Irish - Why let the truth get in the way of a good story.

REPLY, he didn't life in Derry, Teribus is that John Foggery's band, credance you refer to ?


It has been a pleasure replying to you and pointing out these facts. A few I would like to add are, the aims and objectives of the Fourth Northern Command for equality of the nationalist people in the North of Ireland, the right to vote, housing fit for habitation was achieved.

There should be glorification in the loss of the life of a volunteer. True remorse and regret has been expressed at the loss of life of all non- combatants. Families of soldiers who died in the North of Ireland during the war are entitled to the same respect.

In your final post on this thread tonight, you exposed yourself as a fool, nothing more, nothing less other than a fool.

Go raibh maith agat