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Thread #111650   Message #2358168
Posted By: Rapparee
05-Jun-08 - 08:35 AM
Thread Name: Women and church crime
Subject: RE: Women and church crime
Mark 16:9-14:
9 Having risen in the morning on the first day of the week, he appeared first to Mary of Magdala from whom he had cast out seven devils.
10 She then went to those who had been his companions, and who were mourning and in tears, and told them.
11 But they did not believe her when they heard her say that he was alive and that she had seen him.
12 After this, he showed himself under another form to two of them as they were on their way into the country.
13 These went back and told the others, who did not believe them either.
14 Lastly, he showed himself to the Eleven themselves while they were at table. He reproached them for their incredulity and obstinacy, because they had refused to believe those who had seen him after he had risen.


John 20:11-18:

11 But Mary was standing outside near the tomb, weeping. Then, as she wept, she stooped to look inside,
12 and saw two angels in white sitting where the body of Jesus had been, one at the head, the other at the feet.
13 They said, 'Woman, why are you weeping?' 'They have taken my Lord away,' she replied, 'and I don't know where they have put him.'
14 As she said this she turned round and saw Jesus standing there, though she did not realise that it was Jesus.
15 Jesus said to her, 'Woman, why are you weeping? Who are you looking for?' Supposing him to be the gardener, she said, 'Sir, if you have taken him away, tell me where you have put him, and I will go and remove him.'
16 Jesus said, 'Mary!' She turned round then and said to him in Hebrew, 'Rabbuni!'-which means Master.
17 Jesus said to her, 'Do not cling to me, because I have not yet ascended to the Father. But go to the brothers, and tell them: I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'
18 So Mary of Magdala told the disciples, 'I have seen the Lord,' and that he had said these things to her.


Seems to me that the Gospels are pretty clear that Yeshua appeared first to Mary M. and only later to the Apostles. In John, Peter and the other guy run back to where ever the 12 are hiding out, but JC appears to Mary M. She, in both accounts, carries the word of the Ressurection back to the 12 men.

For whatever it's worth, I agree with Joe Offer about Catholics pretty much thinking what they want and not letting the Church get in the way of their Religion.

(Rapaire: 8 years with the SSNDs in Catholic Grade School, 4 years with the Christian Brothers, 6 years with the Franciscans in college [including 21 semester hours of Theology], and friendly with nuns, priests and permanent Deacons.)