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Thread #111997   Message #2365603
Posted By: GUEST
13-Jun-08 - 11:39 PM
Thread Name: BS: WWII unjustified?
Subject: RE: BS: WWII unjustified?
"the german military started planning the rebuild in 1923"

No kidding! Gosh! Well, and so would have the military of virtually any other nation in this world that had been forced to disarm itself after it lost a major war. If the USA or Britain or France had lost a major war in 1918, and had been forced by terms of the treaty to disarm themselves, do you not think they would have clandestinely started rebuilding their military forces within a few years????

I don't see any reason why the nation of Germany should have been forced to gut itself economically and disarm itself after WWI, because they were no more to blame for that war than anyone else was...they just happened to fight a bit better, that's all, and then they lost it in the end...but they got blamed for the entire thing! Either no one was to blame for that war...or everyone was...but there was no reason to pin it all on the Germans.

The Treaty of Versailles was a travesty, and it is simply incredible for anyone to imagine that the Germans would NOT have soon violated it and started re-arming themselves. The USA would have done exactly the same thing if they've been put in the spot that Germany was put in.

So spare me all this righteous indignation, because it's like the protestations of one murderous mobster over the dishonesty and brutality of another. It's like Al Capone complaining about Meyer Lansky being a "thief". LOL!

Why on Earth would you expect the Germans to adhere to a situation that no other major power comparable to them would ever have put up with for long?

"Also the whole German population had been brainwashed since even before WWI that they WERE wonderful and that everything evil nasty and dirty was Polish and French..."

True. But the French thought that way too, didn't they? And so did the British. They were all equally pompous and grandiose and imperially minded about their special favored place in the world's affairs. And the American population has been similarly brainwashed during my entire lifetime and long, long before it to think that they and their system are wonderful and that everything evil, nasty, and dirty exists somewhere else...in Great Britain, in Russia, or China, or Iraq, or France, or Germany, or Japan, or Vietnam, or Chile, or Iran, or Cuba....evil is always "somewhere else", never on the home turf.

Give me a break. You can see the hypocrisy of it easily when the Germans do it, or when the Japanese or Russians do it, but you can't see it when it's plainly happening in your own front yard and it's your own children who are being brainwashed, generation after generation, and who are being taught to see themselves as being better than anyone else in the world, and as having the inherent right to go forth into the world and make others do it "the American way" (whether they wish to or not).

Nor can the British see it in themselves, apparently. You are both nations living in denial of your own darkness, just like the Germans were. You have much the same kind of grand illusions about yourselves that they did. Fascism is not attached to specific nationalities or nations...it moves around freely like a disease to wherever it finds a host, and that host is powerful, ruthless, ethnocentric people who are blind and deluded enough to feed the disease with their unbridled hubris and their militarism and their aggressive nationalism.

The Nazis serve now as your most handy symbolic excuse that you can trot out again and again to keep pointing to a past that is long gone and saying "There was the ultimate evil!" They serve as a good distraction for you to focus attention on. They keep you from facing up to what you yourselves are becoming in the present day. You're going down a very similar road to what they did, but you don't see it.