Anyway ornamentation is one the best parts of this music, they are an obvious way to bring live and interest into a tune. It seems hard to conceive that 'pre-melodeon' fiddler's didn't use this effective method.

This is going to sound terrible but.....

most English fiddler's I've come across in sessions really haven't been that good. It's not to say that there aren't people out there, but...well I don't wish to learn style from a novice...even someone that's been a novice for a long time....

al