It's still to bad, imo, that we who do have some belief cannot discuss it among friends without being ridiculed. It's a sorry state when that happens...in 3D one would hope they'd just drift away to another conversation if they weren't interested. It is bullying and unkind to point fingers of derision, etc.

Oh, but why have a meaningful conversation when things can be so trivialised and threads on innocuous things can go on forever? Bah, humbug!

katwhomust'vebeenScroogeinapastlife!