The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #112455   Message #2379719
Posted By: Amos
03-Jul-08 - 12:26 AM
Thread Name: BS: Conservatism in the United States
Subject: RE: BS: Conservatism in the United States
Thanks, yes.

When you say "security is non-negotiable", is there some level of security you felt we once had at some point in the past which we do not have now? Islam extremism is definitely a more coherent face to what must have been a long simmering hatred. And I am not sure, if there is such a risk that wasn't present earlier, where it can be considered to be from. Osama bin Laden? All mullahs? All Muslims? What is the right target?

As to skyscrapers, I go into the local variety fairly often and the idea of a 747 coming through doesn't even cross my mind, in spite of the weird local flight path approaching Lindbergh Field. But I guess it is understandable if some folks still get the heeby-jeebies thinking about it. I do remember there was a time in the past when it didn't occur to m e to think of a fully-fueled aircraft as a weapon.

In tradiional political terms, these issues were not part of the word "conservative", as it applied to people in the EIsenhower administration, for example, so it also strikes me that these two words "Conservative" and "Liberal" have been grossly re-defined in recent times in order to make two entirely different sets or clumps than they ever denoted before.

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