I'll trace this thread and come back and read it carefully tomorrow. Too late tonight to slog through it. I see several participants who take the time to explain themselves clearly here--a rare thing on some of these threads. Once the name-calling starts I write a thread off, but this one seems to have some meat on its bones. I don't always agree with everyone on this thread, but I appreciate their taking the time to articulate their positions. You learn new stuff if you are able to talk to people you don't always agree with. There have been a few presidents who figured that out, for example, who had cabinets with members from the Other party. Keeps the wind in the tunnel blowing both directions.

SRS