Seriously John,

Alice is right you could not be further off base. That's why I have trouble taking what you said seriously. I really thought you were joking until you got catty.

As for this discussion. Speaking for myself, I'm interested in analyzing the media and politics and I'm using this discussion to sort out in my head exactly what happened. I'm pretty sure that Alice and for that matter SRS and Donuel are doing the same.

Will you grant us that a cartoon brutally attacking Obama is out of place in a supposedly liberal magazine which claims to endorse him? That leads us to an examination of the New Yorker's motivations or to their ability to write satire. I take it that you are a conservative. Why don't you go back to the link that I posted of New Yorker covers. Look at how they are treating the Bush administration. If you do you may find it very difficult to believe their editor when he says that the Obama cover was meant ironically.

Don't get me wrong. There is nothing wrong with the New Yorker treating the Obamas and the Bush administration equally. The problem I have, is with them trying to have their cake and eat it too. Telling the "Liberal" that it is irony as they crystalize in graphic glory every right wing smear.