I have a B & J "The Serenader" from New York, early 1900s?, not sure exactly, could be late 1800s, flat back, oval with the sweetest sound and action, wouldn't trade it for another of any kind. Got it in it's original case for $25. Put another hundred in it to have a little repair done and new strings. If you ever see one out there, pick it up and play it, you might be as happy as I am with mine. Or just let nw know where you saw it!