I also might add, people seem to be very comfortable with--indeed hope that Obama will in fact lie and say whatever the American public wants to hearin order to get elected--and then do a lot of 180 flips on the policy positions he campaigned on.

Why this is seen is a positive thing for Obama to do by them, I don't know. I have a real problem with being lied and pandered to about such important issues. I am not of the "whatever it takes to get elected" school of politics. I don't think politicians should be moving targets during elections, just to be able to claim the prize of winning the highest elected office.

I have a lot of trouble with that sort of amoral thinking, and winning at all costs mentality.