CarolC, At first, I was tempted, to cut and paste your post, of what I said, and then post my post of what I said, in its entirety, next to it, just to show how you take things out of context, just to be contentious, but I decided not to, though if pushed I may just do that, if you really feel like being, once again, publicly humiliated, but, personally, that is not my agenda. I thought instead, I'd use your own quote, and show you were we differ.
"BTW, when my son got old enough to think about the possibility of becoming sexually active, I made sure he had some condoms."
Well, that's the quote. Interesting that you said 'I' made sure..etc. I guess Dad had no say in it?
When I was a young boy, about 11 or so, my mom, after my Dad, set it up, sat me down, and talked to me about the 'urges' that I was going to experience, now that my body was going to go through changes. She asked me just a simple question, that to this day had tremendous impact. "How would you feel, if you chose a girl to be with, and to share your love and life with, have a family with, be the mother of your children, Would you want a girl who was 'passed' around?" How would you feel, if you thought I was passed around?..or your sister, Patty?" Then she proceeded to explain, that if the thought wasn't a good one, to make sure that I myself wasn't the one 'passing' other girls around, messing it up, for other people, who might care, not to have theirs 'passed' around..because those girls are someone elses sister, and someday, someone's mother. She taught us boys, to have respect for ourselves, by not giving into these urges, on various subjects, and to have a value one our own lives, and the lives of others. To treat others, the way we wished to be treated, and in doing so, learn to make decisions not based on our 'in the moment 'feelings and urges', for self gratification. This, she said, would make sense to us as we grew up, more and more, and that we would some day see the wisdom in this....no matter what the criticisms of 'the crowd' said or thought. 'Right is right, if nobody is right, wrong is wrong if everybody's wrong' (used to hear that to). She was able to put herself on the line, because she knew, that we knew that she was a good and loving mom. Needless to say, she was right, and also she instilled in us a very healthy respect for women BY HER EXAMPLE!
Yeah, I get replies to some of my posts, by some of the women in here, ragging on me, about how I disrespect women..etc etc..and blazzoo goof goof...Its just so much nonsense, that all I'm left with is "Jeez! What a bitter, unpleasant nag!'
So, what you have taught and reinforced in your son, is follow your urges, don't get caught, or bring another inconvenience into your life, in the form of an 'unwanted' child..and by the way, when you grow up, do whatever you want, including cheating on your wife and family, because I never taught you to have the moral fabric and value system, to allow your mind to rule over your 'urges'..whenever you want them. Now, I'm sure, that you, or one of your 'liberated'(ie multiply divorced) cohorts, will take exception and fly off the handle at me..but before you do...take the moment and just reflect...think..Wouldn't you have rather have those values in your home...instead of the hopelessness of the urges, you think your son was at the mercy of??????