Some one mentioned as part of their arugment above that the instution of marrage between a man & a woman has been around for 1000's of yrs & some one else uses the scriptures as a bck up. Homosexuality has been around before the scriptures & recorded religion, poor basis for a debate when it's found in the wild among various species of animals as well as in the human race from time immemorial.

"What a church allows or does not, within limits, is their own business"

No it is not just their business when they use their power to weild their doctrine in the states in which thy reside. It is then the business of everyone.

State & church should be "by law" seperate but talk about the affirs of the bedroom, both should stay completely out of the bedroom, especially when it's becomes a boardroom & they're both in it together deceiding on the affairs of others.

They both can be a cruel & unforgiving mistress but together they can be a scourge upon the human race. As we've bloody well seen through out history.

Think witches for one, then there are the Inquisitions & there are always the later day & present day Crusades. Church & State never did & never will make for good bedfellows, they have to many fucked up beliefs & doctrines & way to many that work from the wrong side of the bed & are far & away buried under way to many covers.

Barry