And Africans, don't forget them!!!

Dear god, the hopes for a civilization we can be proud of look so pale sometimes, when compared to these inbred vicious viewpoints.

Ake, I am sorry--I missed Greg's remark, but I am also sure it does not apply to all gays.

It is between the gays and their churches to promote or reject church-based change, and I don't care whether they do or don't or try or not.

The only grounds for tolerance in such matters is civil, IMHO--let the churches see their own light. That's why we have a separation of the two in our constitution.

If I were a member of some established church, which I am not, other than the world itself, I would probably vote for tolerance as well, especially if it were a Christian church who believed that God made man in his own image and offered love to all his children, etc., etc.

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