""I think overall this thread has proven beyond any doubt that the majority of posts show there isn't a widespread support of perv marriage.""

""I think it's probably best to wrap it up as really all it is achieving is talking about the depravity and filth concerned with this subject and giving those wishing to befriend such people a platform.""

""I would close it now Joe. I thank you for permitting the freedom of speech and allowing right thinking people such as myself to express our abhorrence at this ghastly sickening practise.""


I've been staying out of this thread, and watching the development of the argument, and I was impressed with the fact that Joe, in his long established role as the voice of tolerance refused to close it, when asked by those who disagreed with JoyBringer's attitude to Homosexuals in general, and homosexual marriage in particular.

Then I read the points above, posted by JoyBringer.

Now, I may not be the smartest debater on the block, but I learned long since that the best way to establish a reputation for bigotry is to use the most pejorative language you can find, when making a point.

So to consistently refer to PERVS, DISGUSTING PRACTICES, UNNATURAL ACTS, etc. simply weakens your case.

To then request that the topic be closed, purely to prevent the further discussion, by your opponents, of this "DEPRAVITY and FILTH", is another nail in the coffin of your argument. You would deny other posters the right to express opinion, which has just been guaranteed for you by the forum moderator.

You then thank the forum moderator for permitting "RIGHT THINKING PEOPLE" such as yourself to ride roughshod over the rights of others to hold a different opinion.

I have news for you!! THAT is not what Joe did. He refused to prevent YOU from expressing YOUR point of view, and I'm pretty certain that he has NO intention of preventing others here doing the same.

I have NO opinion on the subject of homosexuality, or homosexual marriage. I do not consider what other people do to be any business of mine, since it does ME no harm.

However, based on the above post by you, it is my considered opinion that you, Joybringer, have established beyond a shadow of doubt that, regardless of the rights or wrongs of your position, you are bigotted, and that is a shame, because it detracts from the power and effectiveness of what, more reasonably expressed, might have been a very cogent and potent argument.

Merely my opinion of course, and I'm reasonably sure that you will shrug it off. No skin off my nose.

Don T.