MGOH I would like to know where in either my post of 28 Jul 08 - 01:38 PM or in the post of 28 Jul 08 - 04:48 PM, that I made a personal attack on Guest Shimrod?

Whereas GUEST,Shimrod's post of 28 Jul 08 - 04:09 PM was in toto a personal attack on me.

Case of one sauce for the goose and another for the gander eh Kevin? Another thing that "socialists" are remarkably good at justifying.

This seems to be a question that you have ducked or do you want me to take this as a PM? But I tell you now I WILL publish any reply on this thread, you hypocritical prat.

Very pleased to hear that Little Hawk finds that it is within his province to dictate where people can live and where they can't - No real problem there because Little Hawk's racist opinions are entirely his own and actually effect nothing.

Please note that on this forum I have never advocated, or voiced, an opinion as to where anyone posting here may or may not live. Little Hawk on the other hand seems to feel qualified and entitled to do so, speaks volumes for the pair of us LH, the "little" may be right , but you defame the name of a bird and species that is an excellent parent, which you old son are certainly not, unless of course you count a small dog, Chongo and Shane as your "family", of which only the first exists in real life - Tell me? How sad is that?.

"Don't you see the satire flying everywhere?" Fuckin' brilliant Akenaton!!!! You do of course mean "Don't you see the SALTIRE flying everywhere" At least I have enough recognition of the symbols of my own country to get them right!!! It is actually a measure of insecurity, nothing more.

Now let's take a look at this:

"This was a seat in a Labour heartland, a society steeped in the "benefits culture" three generations lost and forgotten, yet they got up off their apathetic "couldnae gie a fuck" arses in sufficient numbers to remove the Unionist parasites who have kept the in a state of degradation for more than eighty years."

Quite right Akenaton, "a society steeped in the "benefits culture", now tell me what is it that this, "a society steeped in the "benefits culture" expects from an independent Scotland under an SNP Government? Are they all immediately going to transform themselves into productive members of society? Or is it going to be more of the same in belief of slightly higher level of state benefits? And no what your SNP votes in Glsagow East actually translates to is that 18.2% of the electorate voted SNP and it was allowed to stand - Hey Akenaton that means that slightly one person in five turned out to vote for the SNP and all of a sudden that becomes "the will of the people" and indicates the way that they want to go - lesson in realism Akenaton oh no it does not.

Tell you what Akenaton, an exercise in what you truly believe. You organise a petition for a referendum on Scottish independence now, put that up to Alex Salmond and this SNP in which you hold such faith - Then come back and tell us what they tell you. I'll tell you now there is not one single member of the Scottish Nationalist that is prepared to put it to the vote.

By the bye you little twerp come back with reasoned arguement not your usual irrelevant emotive crap - One Scot to another.