"Do you think that your Lockheed Martin pals would have health care if it weren't for unions?"

Do you really think that I would know the answer to that question?

JTS....there are many, many companies out there that have NO union representation and still provide health insurance for their employees.

By the way you're talking, if it weren't for unions then nobody would have healthcare.

That's why they call them "benefits".

benefit: Something that promotes or enhances well-being; an advantage.

There's nowhere in that definition that describes what you're talking about.

Don't tell me it's a right either. I've got the bill of rights right here beside me and nowhere does it say that we are entitled to health insurance, pensions, higher pay, dental, or even pet insurance.

My problem is not with the fact that business provides these benefits. I think it's great. It helps all involved.

My problem is with the fact that people like you and Mick insist of laying this issue on the backs of business owners because of a little jealousy of how they've managed to put a few dollars in the bank because of their sweat and toil, and for whatever reason, you can't feel good for them for truly taking advantage of the opportunities that this country puts forth.

Stop living in the past. It's over.

If jealousy is not the right word then I apologize in advance.

YES!!