" ... and for the record to date on this thread I have not made any personal attack on Guest Shimrod - A fact that he acknowledges."

Hhhhmmm - stretching a point a bit there, Tezza, old mate. Your scorn felt like a personal attack - which is why I abandoned my usual decorum and opted for the savage groin kick ...

Still, something good has come out of this undignified scuffle - at least we now know how to wind up a Tory 'right-steamer'!

Nevertheless, I'm a bit bored with this now.

Best of luck to the Scots, by the way - let's hope that they make the right choices.