I'm not 'pulling you up'. I just don't think you will persuade anyone by calling them an arsehole - in so many words. I don't think its much good as a response or a debating tactic.

And in fact I have voiced my disquiet about some of the stuff that gets bandied about in these discussions. Usually in PM's admittedly. I don't want to go into specific instances - but yes, I have asked people not to continue certain humdingers. Once or twice, people have said to me - this is getting a bit scary and pulled out of these debates.

Carry on if it makes you happy. But I don't see how it can. If it seems to you the way to go - so be it!