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Thread #113466   Message #2413109
Posted By: Little Hawk
13-Aug-08 - 10:38 PM
Thread Name: BS: New War Maneuvers in the Middle East??
Subject: RE: BS: New War Maneuvers in the Middle East??
Yes, the military's oath is to the Constitution, artbrooks, but you know what military officers and soldiers usually do? They follow orders from a higher officer who talks to them, not from an old document that is mute. That's because:

1. they are trained to follow orders...without delay.
2. they usually aren't constitutional lawyers
3. they haven't usually got any time to work out in their heads if an order they just received is "constitutional" or not...

And guess what? George Bush is the "commander-in-chief", and he can issue the orders. If he did issue such orders, then chances are almost certain that they would be obeyed by people who had neither the time nor the independence of mind to sit down and analyze whether or not any of it was constitutional. They would be obeyed by people who did not even understand the implications of those orders, and who had been given reason to believe those orders were absolutely necessary in some emergency situation.

And it is naive to think otherwise. All it takes to betray a constitution is the will on the part of a commander-in-chief to do so.

Nonetheless, there is, I think, some possibility that some loyal and intelligent top officers in the high command might oppose an attempt by Mr Bush to hijack the government in such a fashion. If so, you would probably see a rift within the military and the intelligence community and the beginnings of a civil war...and if THAT happened, well...BOTH sides would claim that the other side was violating and betraying the Constitution. BOTH sides would claim that the other was launching a coup with the intention of establishing a dictatorship.

I guarantee it.

Most individual Americans have very little idea what their Constitution really says in most respects, and that includes most military personnel. This is also true in other countries, so I am certainly not singling out Americans alone when I say this. The majority of people in the world don't really know what their legal and constitutional rights are except in a very vague sense, and this is one of the things that allows politicians everywhere to deny people's rights and trick them and betray their constitutional guarantees.

The Bush administration has already done several things that are unconstitutional, but their supporters don't think so, do they?

People believe what they want to believe, and soldiers follow orders.