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Thread #113466   Message #2413687
Posted By: Teribus
14-Aug-08 - 12:46 PM
Thread Name: BS: New War Maneuvers in the Middle East??
Subject: RE: BS: New War Maneuvers in the Middle East??
Let's see Amos's article said that on 7th August they'd been at sea enroute for the middle-east for about a week:

"Thursday, August 7, 2008
Massive US Naval Armada Heads For Iran

"Operation Brimstone ended only one week ago. This was the joint US/UK/French naval war games in the Atlantic Ocean preparing for a naval blockade of Iran and the likely resulting war in the Persian Gulf area." - Yep?

Now if memory serves me correctly passage speed could be anything from 18 to 25 knots, that's 600 nautical miles per day. Or since beginning of the month, when Operation Brimstone ended, to now this force has steamed some where between 6,048 and 8400 nautical miles. The Med, from end to end is about 2,500 nautical miles so this Armada, if bound for the Persian Gulf, should have all passed through the Suez Canal days ago.

Any idea where any of these ships are at present? After all their sailing will likely result in war in the Persian Gulf area - Scary or what??? - I'll settle for ridiculous.

My guess is that they are still in the Med, where they were dispatched to for very good reason considering recent developments on the international scene.

I was interested in this snippet from Amos's first source:

"The Russian Navy this spring sent a major battle fleet into the Mediterranean headed by the modern aircraft carrier the Admiral Kuznetsov and the flagship of its Black Sea Fleet, the Guided Missile Heavy Cruiser Moskva. This powerful fleet has at least 11 surface ships and unknown numbers of subs and can use the Russian naval facility at Syria's Tartous port for resupply."

The old Soviet Fleets held two exercises every year, they were known as the "Spring" and "Autumn" Wars, and NATO assiduously monitored both. The surface units were always accompanied by a number of submarines, who, submerged, acted as the "Main Body" of the force. NATO charter Merchant Ships for this purpose or use Assault Ships and RFA's. The Russians have now lost their former Fleet anchorages at Alboran and Alexandria so are now hemmed in to the eastern end of the Med and further shackled by restrictions relating to the passage of warships through the Dardanelles. Their base at Sevastopol can only be used defensively and requires Ukrainian permission for entry and exit.