Tell you what, Amos,

You grant me that you believe in the immaculate conception and I'll grant you that sperm and ova are human life in the same way the two joined together are.

You're venturing to win a debate. You'll win here (on the mudcat, and against me) because that kind of reasoning works here. But it also proves that debate is not always a good means of finding truth -- just who is better at bullshit.