This is a really cool thread so far. When I read the subject, I thought it would divulge into the, "You're an idiot!" "No, you're an idiot!" type of thing. The arguments so far seem to have been very well thought out.

I think one of the problems with society is not our belief in film. In America, we tend to believe that if something is in the newspaper or on the evening news, then it must be an un-biased opinion.

This scares me because the government can control the media, and the media can control the country.

I haven't seen U-571, and after the rave reviews that I've read here, I don't plan to. I learned the bad part of learning history from movies from "Michael Collins."

If I want to watch a cool sub movie, I'll watch "The Hunt for Red October." At least I know that it's fiction.

As far as english people being bad guys, just watch "Star Wars." Everyone in the Empire (except Darth Vader and the Emperor) was English. Everyone in the Rebel Alliance (except for Obi-Wan-Kenobi) was American. I also saw numerous other films as a child that depicted the English as being cold-hearted and cruel. I'm sure some of them were Disney productions. For some reason, I can't remember any titles right now.

As for being cynical, I don't believe anything unless I was there to witness it. History is largely written by whoever wins a war. For some reason, people believe it anyway.

-Racer